‘Shining Vale’ Creator Breaks Down That Season 2 Twist — and Courteney Cox’s ‘Holy S—!’ Reaction to It

SPOILER ALERT: This story contains spoilers for Smile, the fourth episode of Season 2 of Shining Vale, now streaming on the Starz app.

With each passing episode on the set of Starzs horror comedy Shining Vale, Greg Kinnear made a habit of asking co-creator Jeff Astrof how he planned to get the characters out of the spooky corners he backed them into.

And every time I told him, Just trust me, were gonna get out of it, Astrof tells Variety. But even he admits the latest twist required some extra explaining.

In the final moments of Episode 4, mere minutes after Pat (Courteney Cox) and Terry (Kinnear) tell their children Gaynor (Gus Birney) and Jake (Dylan Gage) they are getting a divorce, Pat learns she is pregnant. The baby could be amnesiac Terrys, with whom Pat had reconnected before he learned about his wifes affair again. But given the nature of the haunted house series, it is far more likely the baby was conceived during the demonic dream orgy Pat found herself at the center of during last weeks episode.

After pitching the twist, Astrof says the logical first question that arose in the writers room was a respectful but realistic How? Even Cox, who is 59 years old, questioned the viability of the pregnancy if only for a moment.

Courteney was, of course, very game for it, Astrof says. When I first told her, she said, Wow, holy shit! How are you going to do that? I just said, Well do it if youll do it! And she was all in.

Astrof confirms Pats pregnancy will launch Shining Vale into a full-fledged Rosemarys Baby homage if that gives viewers any indication of who the father might be. But the twist itself is actually rooted in co-creator Sharon Horgans pilot script.

Going back to Sharons original pages, she has this quote that opens our series that said, Women are more than twice as likely as men to be depressed or demonically possessed and the symptoms are the same. Astrof says. I did a deep dive on that, and basically a lot of it is because of hormones. There is something called hormonal schizophrenia, and the other groups that experience these mood changes and almost demonic-like symptoms are adolescents, which we have in Gaynor and pregnant women. I thought that was fantastic.

Courtesy of Hilary Bronwyn Gayle/Starz The show has been laying the groundwork for this twist all season, especially with the introduction of Mira Sorvinos new role as the empathetic, but nosy neighbor, Ruth. The characters name is a nod to Ruth Gordon, who won an Oscar for playing the sinister neighbor Minnie in 1968s Rosemarys Baby. After Sorvino played the aptly named Rosemary, the murderous housewife haunting Pat in Season 1, Astrof said he was happy to hand the Oscar winner a new character to feast on. But he struggled with telling her that character would be based on Gordon.

Every single person fought me on it but I said, Im not having Mira go from playing a ghost who masturbates in a bathtub to playing Ruth Gordon, he says, laughing. I just cant do it! I couldnt have that conversation with Mira. We wanted to give her more.

This led to the introduction of Sorvinos second new character this season Nellie Bly, the real-life journalist who had herself committed to an asylum in 1887 to author an expos on the treatment of patients. The arrival of the character, who appears to Pat in a dream-like state, finally explains the photo Pat saw as she was being committed in the Season 1 finale an image of an old asylum orderly who looked a lot like Rosemary.

We did a lot of deep dives on womens sanitariums, and we thought it would be interesting if what Pat saw was real, or at least thought it was real, Astrof says. So we thought, lets have Mira do it.

It is Nellie who terrifyingly delivers the news of Pats bundle of joy (or dread?) at the end of the episode, written in blood on her arm.

But Rosemarys Baby wont be the only classic horror movie given a spotlight this season. In recent episodes, Gaynor has become convinced she inherited the mental instability that landed her mother and her grandmother (Judith Light) in the asylum. This weeks encounter with a man in a black hat standing under a streetlamp outside her window doesnt convince her otherwise. The image is an instantly recognizable nod to The Exorcist, which could mean Gaynor needs a visit from a holier power to break the family cycle.

I love Gus as an actor, and I wanted to see how much I could write for her, Astrof says. I just dont think we have found her ceiling yet. Plus, you get claustrophobic sometimes in a haunted house story. How many times can Pat see a ghost that isnt a ghost? I had family trauma growing up, and it affected me, and who I am. Thats what family trauma does, and we want to explore that with Gaynor.

Fresh trauma to sort through could be on the horizon as the Phelps family grapples with the reality of their newest addition, and Astrof took it all as a personal challenge to prove that Pat is not past her Rosemarys Baby prime.

I was just excited to see what could happen with this story, and I like the idea that Pat and Terry split up only to then have to face this unexpected life cycle later in life, he says. Plus, it gives us a chance to do some really spooky shit.